Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return

The recent prediction by Harold Camping that the Rapture and a worldwide earthquake would happen on May 21, 2011  was cause for nonbelievers and believers alike to mock rapture date-setters. However, while most Christians wanted to set themselves apart from Camping and other date-setters, they still believe in the second coming of Jesus.  They only reject the date. They don’t see the irrationality of the belief itself whether it comes with a date attached or not.

A new article Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return has been added to the Articles page. It shows that Jesus taught he would return to judge the world and bring about the end of days in the lifetime of his first century disciples. Likewise, the writers of the New Testament believed they would live to see the event in fulfillment of the oracle they believed was given by Jesus. Luckily, the foretelling was false and you are alive to read about it.

BNOA In the News!

In the last seven days BNOA has been in the news twice – first in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, then in on the Creative Loafing blog. Now it looks like we may make it to TV! We were contacted Friday by reporter Devin Fehely of the Channel 11 News. He requesting an on-camera interview about our views on Family Radio’s Harold Camping’s prediction that Jesus will return at 6pm today to beam his followers to Heaven. A news team may stop by our Rapture Day Picnic to record the interview for a news segment.

Come hang with us as we have fun awaiting the uneventful return of the ‘Risen Savior’!

“Tick, tock!” goes the doomsday clock. The end is…nah!

 

The final day of the
Countdown To Backpedaling
has begun!

Answers to Common Arguments for the Existence of God

Argument from Personal Experience

“My personal experience tells me that God exists.”

Personal experience alone is never a good reason to believe anything. If it were, we would have no way of determining whose experience reflects reality. Believers do not actually believe that personal experience is the pathway to truth because they don’t accept other people’s experiences as proof of the claims of others with whom they disagree. There are objective ways of determining what is actually true. Personal experience is not one of them.

Argument from Spiritual Enlightment

“Just as you can’t describe red to the blind, I can’t explain to you how I know that God exists. I perceive God because I am spiritually awake. You cannot perceive God, because you are spiritually blind.”

This is like telling a blind person the location of a chair. When the blind person gets to that location and cannot find the chair, you tell him he can’t perceive it because he is blind. The blind person asks you to prove there is a chair. One way you can demonstrate its presence would be to place his hand on it to trace it’s outline. If you refuse to show him in some way that the chair is there, the blind person is justified in calling you a liar. Likwise, until valid evidence of a god’s existence is presented, one is justified in rejecting the claim.

You cannot describe red to a blind person, because red is a subjective visual experience. It is dependent on the brain to create it. If God is like “red”, God too is a mental image rather than an objective reality.

You say, “God isn’t like red, but more like the light we perceive as red.”

The problem with that is that we can show that light exists. We can detect and measure it. We can even measure light we can’t see and everyone who measures it with the same method gets the same results. God, on the other hand, has not been detected and people do not get the same results with belief in God. This is a clue that God is a mental experience rather than something that exists objectively. In order to accurately say that something exists, you have to be able to show that it can be detected and that everyone who uses the same detection method gets the same results.

Argument from Beauty

“Nature is so beauty. Only something intelligent could have created it.”

Beauty is a subjective emotional experience different for every person. Beauty is in the mind, not in the thing observed. There is no rational reason to think that because you think something is beautiful, that someone must have made it beautiful. Someone else will look at the same thing and not see beauty there at all. Nature is only beautiful to those who deem it so.

Argument from Ignorance

    • “I don’t understand how the universe could exist with a Creator.
    • “You can’t explain where the universe came from if God didn’t create it. So, there must be a God.”

These come from unwillingness to accept that you don’t know something or that something is simply unknown. Not having an answer to something for many people is uncomfortable. So they plug in an answer they like to feel better. However, without evidence for the proposition, there is no good reason to accept that it is true.

God is presented as the ultimate mystery – a being that cannot be understood by human minds or detected by physical means. If that is the case, it couldn’t explain anything. It only piles mystery on top of mystery. Accepting an unproven mystery as an answer, stops you from discovering real answers that can be verified as true.

Argument from Personal Incredulity

“It doesn’t seem plausible to me that there could be no God.”

Note that no evidence for the belief in God is being offered with this or similar statements. It is simply a thought-stopper amounting to “I don’t understand how this could be. Therefore, it can’t be true.” It is a versioin of an argument from ignorance.

The nature of reality isn’t dependent on one’s intuitive or personal understanding. There have been many things that were not intuitively plausible or credible that have been shown with evidence to be true. If we are interesting in knowing whether what we believe is true, we must follow wherever the evidence leads. Anything short of that is self-deception.

Argument from Miracles

“The existence of miracles proves the existence of God.”

Not one miracle has ever been proven to have occurred. Every supposed miracle in modern times has been shown to have been the work of natural causes or to have been faked. If you believe miracles only happened in ancient times, you need to demonstrate that they actually happened. If a “miracle” is ever verified, you’d then need to demonstrate that it was caused by a god and not by some other force, entity or a natural process.

Pascal’s Wager

“Even though the existence of God cannot be proven, a person should believe and live as though God exists. By doing so, you have eternal life to gain if you are right. If you are wrong and God doesn’t exist, you lose nothing. On the other hand, if you don’t believe in God and God does exist, you’ll face eternal punishment.”

This kind of belief is not genuine. It certainly wouldn’t fool an all-knowing god who would know you’re just using belief as a “get-out-of-hell” card. You would surely would end up in hell for trying to fool the god.

The Christian who makes this argument does not really believe it. If they did, they would believe in every god proposed by all religions so as to avoid any possible punishment from any of them.  

The argument says you loose nothing by believing in God, but, of course you do. You lose the only chance you have to enjoy the pursuit of happiness now in whatever way you would choose if you didn’t hold that belief. In Christianity, so many natural impulses are deemed an offense against the Christian god. By fighting one’s natural impulses or one desires that do no harm others, you put yourself into an inevitable unnecessary cycle of guilt and seeking forgiveness. Why do that when there is no proof that the Christian god (or any other one) exists in the first place?

Cosmological Argument

“Everything that begins must have a cause. The universe began. Therefore, it must have a first cause – God.”

This argument contains an unsupported claim. It is not known that the universe began. The person making this argument must demonstrate that it did. Believers will often say that scientists have determined that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe. In actuality, that is a misunderstanding of what science says about it.

The flash point of the Big Bang is the beginning of the conditions which gave rise to the configuration of things as we see them now. We are actually still in the Big Bang as we have detected that the universe is still exploding outward in all directions. Scientists do not yet know if the Big Bang is the beginning of the universe or if our Big Bang exist within a larger universe which has either always existed. If the universe we see is all there is, we don’t even know if whether it has gone through other iterations “before” the Big Bang we are currently in. 

If God created the universe, we want to know who or what created God. The usual response is that God is the uncaused cause – he always existed. This pokes a hole in the theists’ own argument. By asserting that God had no cause, the theist admits that it is possible that something always existed. The universe itself may be uncaused? This shouldn’t be beyond conception since there are verified uncaused things in the universe now. (Radioactive decay and some of the behaviors of subatomic particles are examples.)

Teleological Argument (a.k.a. Argument from Design)

“Design is evident in the universe. Therefore, there must be a designer – God.”

This is a linguistic trick used to get the mind to come to a conclusion without supporting evidence. The word “design” starts with presumption of a designer. Starting with a presumption of the conclusion you are trying to prove is an illogical and invalid way to argue.

This argument overy ften takes the form of the ‘Watchmaker Argument’ which says, “If you see a watch in the forest, you know that it is designed and must have a designer. Nature has design and therefore must also have a designer.” Without realizing it, the theists using this line of reasoning is admitting that nature is not designed. One way you know something is designed is by comparing it to things you know are not designed. The hypothetical watch on the forest floor looks designed compared to the forest because we don’t see the forest as designed. If both the watch and the forest seemed designed to us there would be no way to make a comparison to lead us to consider whether anything there was designed or not. It would all look designed.

We also come to the situation already knowing that watches are designed because of evidence you have already have: watch factories, watch designers and watch making technology. We have never had any evidence in that the universe is designed.

Anthropic Argument

“The universe is finely tuned for the existence of human life. The fine tuner is God.”

The universe is not finely tuned for human life. If it were, we would see human life everywhere. Instead, the universe is so overwhelmingly hostile to human life that is only exists on one planet. Even the earth isn’t finely tuned for us. Weather, earthquakes, volcanoes, bacteria, viruses and other lifeforms destroy human life daily. We have only achieved our current numbers and increased our lifespans by intentionally working against nature’s conditions. We do this by making clothing, building dwellings, creating technology, curing and eradicating diseases, and domesticating plants and animals for food. We exist in spite of the inhospitable conditions of the universe rather than existing in a universe finely tuned for us.

Argument from Morality

“Objective morality cannot exist without a Divine Lawgiver – God. We have morality. Therefore, God exists.”

There is no evidence of the existence of an objective morality. A morality set by a god could not be objective any more than one set by humans. Objective means “existing independently of perception or an individual’s conceptions”. A morality given by a god would by definition exist based on the perception or conception of that god – which means it is subjective. In order for morality to be objective, it would have to be independent of the god.

That would pose a problem to the theist. If there is something independent of a perfect god, he is subject to it and, therefore, isn’t sovereign over all, couldn’t possibly be omnipotent, nor could he have free will and shouldn’t be called God.

Transcendental Argument

“Logical absolutes exist. Logical absolutes are conceptual by nature, are not dependent on space, time, physical properties, or human nature. They are not the product of the physical universe (space, time, matter), because if the physical universe were to disappear, logical absolutes would still be true. Logical Absolutes are not the product of human minds, because human minds are different, not absolute. But, since logical absolutes are always true everywhere, and not dependent upon human minds, it must be an absolute transcendent mind that is authoring them. This mind is called God.” (see http://carm.org/transcendental-argument)

Let’s handle this argument in pieces:

“Logical absolutes are conceptual by nature, are not dependent on space, time, physical properties, or human nature.”

If logical absolutes are conceptual, they are concepts which means they come from minds. We have no evidence of any minds that exist without a brain. Brains are physical and dependent on space, time and matter. Therefore, by necessity logical absolutes are also dependent on space, time and matter.

“[I]f the physical universe were to disappear, logical absolutes would still be true”.

This is a bold, unsupported assertion. There is no evidence of a nonphysical universe and no evidence that logical absolutes would exist without a universe. The author of the website admits that “[l]ogical absolutes are truth statements…” As such, they are truth statements about something. Therefore, if there is no “something”, there couldn’t be any truth statements. Therefore, no logical absolutes would exist if the universe did not exist.

“Logical Absolutes are not the product of human minds, because human minds are different, not absolute.”

 This is a faulty assertion. Indefinite articles in English (the words “a” and “an”) are absolute. Numbers are asbolute as are mathmatic equations. They were all created by human beings. They are examples showing that human minds create logical absolutes.

“[L]ogical absolutes are always true everywhere”

This is another naked assertion with no proof offered. Since we do not know the entire universe, we do not know that logical absolutes apply everywhere.

Logical absolutes exist in the context of logical systems. They do not even necessarily carry over from one logical system to another. Examples:

1 plus 1=2
1 divided by 2 = 1/2

are mathematical logical absolutes. However, they are not logical absolutes in physics. Two clouds added together make one. One cloud divided in two makes two whole clouds, not half of one.

“[I]t must be an absolute transcendent mind that is authoring them. This mind is called God.”

This assertion contradicts the growing body of scientific evidence that tells us that minds are created by brains. Since the mind-god this argument tries to get us to believe in has no brain, some evidence needs to be presented to show that a brainless mind does or can exist. Given what we already have verified, a god that is a brainless mind, would be a thing that does not exist in reality.

If God created logical absolutes, can He make a circular square? Can He create dark light? Can God be here and not here at the same time? If not, then god is subject to logical absolutes and cannot have created them or be sovereign over all. If logical absolutes are a part of the god’s nature, He is subject to them and not transcendent. If He is not transcendent, he is not God? If God can transgress logical absolutes, how do you know that? What evidence is there to believe such a thing?